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Tuesday, January 25, 2011
Shanghai skyline 1990 vs 2010
China has often been a topic here on the BOOT. Nothing sums up the growth and change in China like this photo comparing the Shanghai skyline of 1990 with last year (2010).
I would never leave America in this time of economic hardship. I would consider such actions to be almost traitorous, especially since its China's actions that are crippling the blue collar work force these days. That skyline looks like pure crap to me, because all I see are American jobs flushed away to build it.
@jarheadxbox - wow. If I had known that being on the front cover of blogger would have exposed me to comments that belong on the darkest pages of a "I hate foreigners" blog. I would have turned down the link. The world is not a zero sum gain. That means, we can all win. A winner in one place does not have to mean a loser in the other.
I can say what you want, and I dont hate foreigners, but the only thing thats driving China's success right now is a combination of American corporations desire for dirt cheap manufacturing labor overseas, and American citizens addiction to dirt cheap EVERYTHING, aka the wal-mart mentality. When you go over there and you think "wow, its so beautiful" remember, once upon a time someone said that about Detroit. In this case their win is most definitely our continued loss. We need to take pride in our own cities, right here, before their irreversably flushed down the crapper.
@jarheadxbox I couldn't agree with you more about the state of our American cities Detroit in particular if any of you get a chance watch the documentary called "Requiem for Detroit" very powerful stuff.In regard to globalization and how it affects our economy again I concur...Where I disagree with you bud is the comment about the skyline.In my opinion it is a architectural gem.Sadly,they just don't build stuff like that over here anymore
that picture is mind blowing to see how much is has changed over that short of a period of time. i cant imagine how much different it will be in another 20 years!
I worry about the way that formerly conservative and exclusionist countries are now rapidly building Capitalist societies almost by sheer force alone. It might seem a bit of an oxymoron, but the Western societies emerged into Capitalism in a very organic manner, this (whilst being a fairly substantial change) allowed cityscapes and other urban areas to compensate and change in a reasonable manner (development of waste disposal, containers for transport of goods, hospitals etc).
I've no doubt that the change in China is well supported and thought through, don't get me wrong. I just fear that such rapid evolution means some gaps might not be filled, and certain essential factets of a working capitalist society might not be able to evolve in time.
interesting contrast. i saw 'on the beach' recently...the footage of San Francisco and of Melbourne in the fifties shows how much those cities have changed too
What a great catch. I love seeing the evolution of cities.
And @jarhead: mate, you're very right about Chicago fading from past glories, but the thing is, that's part of commercial and economic evolution.
History is full of cities (and even more so, districts in cities) which have boomed, gone bust and then recreated themselves in extraordinary ways, and sometimes the old ones which have been left behind rise higher because they still have so many beautiful buildings and streets and areas left untouched - unlike cities which have never had a break from the headlong rush, and thus everything old is bulldozed or blown up.
Maybe in two or three decades we will see Detroit being gushed over as one of America's best renewed cities, with a very different focus compared to the old manufacturing-based Detroit.
I found your blog when I was looking for a different sort of information but I was very happy and glad to read through your blog. The information available here is great.I shanghai I know for this skyline I love to see by myself.
@jarheadxbox: "its China's actions that are crippling the blue collar work" I disagree. It's a lazy jarhead generation who want to sit around and play xbox instead of getting out there and finding some way to serve those around them who are at fault. Find a need, fill a need. Get up off your bottom and stop feeling sorry for yourself.
A great town to visit, this days.!
ReplyDeleteI would never leave America in this time of economic hardship. I would consider such actions to be almost traitorous, especially since its China's actions that are crippling the blue collar work force these days. That skyline looks like pure crap to me, because all I see are American jobs flushed away to build it.
ReplyDeleteI was in Shanghai in 1989, just after Tianammen ... I remember it just like that. I have been back since and remain as astonished as ever.
ReplyDeleteThey well deserve their sucesses and China's rise benefit us all, despite any xenophobic comments from ignorant Americans.
that's impressive
ReplyDeletegreat work...
ReplyDelete@jarheadxbox - wow. If I had known that being on the front cover of blogger would have exposed me to comments that belong on the darkest pages of a "I hate foreigners" blog. I would have turned down the link. The world is not a zero sum gain. That means, we can all win. A winner in one place does not have to mean a loser in the other.
ReplyDeleteI can say what you want, and I dont hate foreigners, but the only thing thats driving China's success right now is a combination of American corporations desire for dirt cheap manufacturing labor overseas, and American citizens addiction to dirt cheap EVERYTHING, aka the wal-mart mentality. When you go over there and you think "wow, its so beautiful" remember, once upon a time someone said that about Detroit. In this case their win is most definitely our continued loss. We need to take pride in our own cities, right here, before their irreversably flushed down the crapper.
ReplyDelete@jarheadxbox I couldn't agree with you more about the state of our American cities Detroit in particular if any of you get a chance watch the documentary called "Requiem for Detroit" very powerful stuff.In regard to globalization and how it affects our economy again I concur...Where I disagree with you bud is the comment about the skyline.In my opinion it is a architectural gem.Sadly,they just don't build stuff like that over here anymore
ReplyDeleteWhile I worked at Disney World, I worked with and became friends with someone from Shanghai China. I would love to visit him!
ReplyDeleteAs for the actual picture, that is pretty crazy. A short twenty years can create a lot of change in places, and it seems like a very great city.
that picture is mind blowing to see how much is has changed over that short of a period of time. i cant imagine how much different it will be in another 20 years!
ReplyDeleteI remember when they started building those.
ReplyDeleteThats quite astounding.
ReplyDeleteI worry about the way that formerly conservative and exclusionist countries are now rapidly building Capitalist societies almost by sheer force alone. It might seem a bit of an oxymoron, but the Western societies emerged into Capitalism in a very organic manner, this (whilst being a fairly substantial change) allowed cityscapes and other urban areas to compensate and change in a reasonable manner (development of waste disposal, containers for transport of goods, hospitals etc).
I've no doubt that the change in China is well supported and thought through, don't get me wrong. I just fear that such rapid evolution means some gaps might not be filled, and certain essential factets of a working capitalist society might not be able to evolve in time.
I wonder what makes their general evolution so rare. I think for a city to evolve with much updated technology is unique.
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@jarheadxbox: I have carefully considered your argument and here is my analysis of your argument.
ReplyDeleteIt's not China's fault that American businesses relocated there. It's greedy Americans.
The skyline change is a marvel.
Really impressive!
ReplyDeleteThis picture says more than words..
I'm sorry but that's pretty incredible. AND BEAUTIFUL.
ReplyDeleteThose Chinese people are resilient if anything.
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ReplyDeleteinteresting contrast. i saw 'on the beach' recently...the footage of San Francisco and of Melbourne in the fifties shows how much those cities have changed too
ReplyDeleteI love the difference in picture.. it shows development of the world over decades spectacular. XD
ReplyDeleteOh wow, that's a HUGE change. I wonder what it will look like 10 years from now
ReplyDeleteThis is unbelievable!
ReplyDeleteWhat a great catch. I love seeing the evolution of cities.
ReplyDeleteAnd @jarhead: mate, you're very right about Chicago fading from past glories, but the thing is, that's part of commercial and economic evolution.
History is full of cities (and even more so, districts in cities) which have boomed, gone bust and then recreated themselves in extraordinary ways, and sometimes the old ones which have been left behind rise higher because they still have so many beautiful buildings and streets and areas left untouched - unlike cities which have never had a break from the headlong rush, and thus everything old is bulldozed or blown up.
Maybe in two or three decades we will see Detroit being gushed over as one of America's best renewed cities, with a very different focus compared to the old manufacturing-based Detroit.
I found your blog when I was looking for a different sort of information but I was very happy and glad to read through your blog. The information available here is great.I shanghai I know for this skyline I love to see by myself.
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ReplyDelete@jarheadxbox: "its China's actions that are crippling the blue collar work" I disagree. It's a lazy jarhead generation who want to sit around and play xbox instead of getting out there and finding some way to serve those around them who are at fault. Find a need, fill a need. Get up off your bottom and stop feeling sorry for yourself.
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